My 92 pathy project

[NissanNut]

Well another SAS has started. My new 92 Pathy bone stock. looks tiny with its stock little 31s compared to SAS SUA with 33s.

http://nissannut.com/92_WD21/drvr_frt.JPG

http://nissannut.com/92_WD21/frt_low.JPG

OK I got the Ballistic Fabrication coil buckets on. The fit perfectly on the drivers side. On the right side I had to bend the high pressure power steering hard line out of the way.

I also mounted the frame track bar mount. The coil bucket and mount gusset it each.

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/coil_buckets/coil_buckets_welded.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/coil_buckets/track_bar_mounts.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/coil_buckets/frame_plate_driver.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/coil_buckets/plate_welded.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/coil_buckets/coil_bucket_driver.jpg

Link mounts.

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_axle_mounts.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_axle_mounts_welded.jpg

I did a cut and turn on the new axle. I got both Cs off in 1 hour. :twisted:

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/cut_turn/C-off.jpg

I hope this works. :dork:

[lmr81]

Looks great! I love those buckets. Nice gold Pathy;).

[NissanNut]

Made the lower links from 2" .250 wall tube. So big a Titan can fit inside!

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/lnks_titan_size.jpg

Used a custom template. A sharpie.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_template.jpg

There the same size. Wow!
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_compare.jpg

Now press in the j joints. I love these things.

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_jjoints.jpg

polyperformace link mounts. Very nice.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_frame_mount.jpg

Found a nice spot on the double wall frame.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_frame_prepare.jpg

Pre welded all the gussets on.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_frame_ready.jpg

Just tack on frame rail when the axle is centered.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_frame_tacked.jpg

Some temp coils for a test fit.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/mockup_front.jpg

Now for the upper link and tarck bar.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/mockup_driver.jpg

Between currie j joints and ballistic and poly performance mounts this is going to gether nicley.

[Ryan Gee]

That is looking awesome!!

[theking]

Nice. what caster u goin' with?

[NissanNut]

Thanks Guys.

Caster will be 6-8. I have the same on the D21. The pinion angle is at 20deg. The pumpkin is limited on up travel so I like a good angle and full droop.

So Ryan what springs you running front and rear?

I ordered the Datz510 springs. Bronco 5.5 superflex for the front. Yet to see them. Can I run those in the rear? I want it low as possible.

[Ryan Gee]

I run the James Duff (http://www.jamesduff.com/eb/suspension_components.html) 5.5 coils.

In the rear I run Rustys offroad 9 inch coils (http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=rustys&Product_Code=ROR850&Category_Code=COILS).

With my rear detroit taking a dump, things are going to change there. The front is going to change a little too.

We are about to start an Xterra SAS that looks alot like yours only different! :thumbsup:

If the rear ends up being to tall, you can always cut a little coil off.

[NissanNut]

I almost bought those XJ 9" coils. They were on sale for $120. I created an account and everything. I was afraid they may be too soft. People said XJ coils are too small.:confused:

With the Pathy at ride height on jack stands. It looks like I need a longer frt spring than rear. My frt bucket is adjustable. 5" of movement.

Got any pix of the Xterra SAS? I could not find anyone building radius arms with j joints.:(

[dvdswan]

looks good, I need to buy a 2nd vehicle so I can start a SAS.

[cuong nguyen]

Barry, I have the 5.5" super flex springs sitting here. They're made by Deaver Springs and are linear rate 190 lb/in.

[NissanNut]

Barry, I have the 5.5" super flex springs sitting here. They're made by Deaver Springs and are linear rate 190 lb/in.

Thats what I ordered. I did not know they were 190. Cool.

I got the rest of the radius arm mocked up today. Easier than I feared.

J joint on one end
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_upper.jpg

Just barely fit in chop saw.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_cut.jpg

A little grinding and it should fit.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_mocked.jpg

Looks better now.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_both_tacked.jpg

Added more details and pix on my this page.

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link

[tbecktold]

You make everything look SO damn easy! Nice work Barry!


And is it just me, or are the HB and Pathy almost the same color?

[NissanNut]

You make everything look SO damn easy! Nice work Barry!


And is it just me, or are the HB and Pathy almost the same color?

Thanks. I have been thinking about a coil setup for a long time. Finally decided to tackle it head on. I learned allot of the SUA and SOA SAS jobs.

There similar colors at a distance. I was told the Pathy was green. But its bluish grey per Nissan. Blue int. Truck is green with grey int. I want to paint both black. Or truck Red and Pathy black. Thats another project though.

[theking]

Ever consider going with just one upper link?

[NissanNut]

Ever consider going with just one upper link?

Not really. I did consider a 3 link.

I am going to reverse the upper links. Put the joint at the lower link point. Some say there will not be enough flex.

Do you have any pix of your setup? Yours looked real good.

[theking]

Yeah, I went with the typical three link setup. In hindsight, I'd change a few things to optimize the geometry, like staighten out the upper link more, kick out the lower links and a passenger side highsteer with a taller trackbar mount on the axle. Anyways, for more flex i think you should just go with just a single upper link like mine. The radius arm setup will bind up.



http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/kennylauter909/My%20SAS/IMG_1019.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/kennylauter909/My%20SAS/IMG_1021.jpg

[NissanNut]

Very cool. I like the rear links. Thanks for the pix. I have seen lots of pix on n4w and ac. Nice work!

I like the idea of redundant upper links. Thats why I want to get a radius arm to work. This will be my daily driver.

I ordered more j joints. I plan to have the upper link hinge of the lower. Like a TJ long arm. But for now I put one knuckle on and started the steering. Need to get steering on so I can finish the track bar. Then I can finally do a flex test with different radius arms setups.

[Ryan Gee]

Looking good! And King yours looks awesome as always.

[theking]

Likewise. :toast: :toast:

[NissanNut]

I finished the steering. So I built the track bar. Half j joint half poly.

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/track_bar_mocked.JPG

I reworked the original driver radius arm with a hinge.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_bracket_cut.JPG

Its a 3x4 3/16 wall tube cut and notched.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/link_pocket_done.JPG


http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/upperlink_mockup.JPG


http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/upper_links_cut.JPG

Plan to use these 5.5 lift springs on all corners. May have to shorten a bit.

5.5lift for 74 bronco coils, 1.5 lift pathy coils and stock coil.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/5link_rear/5.5_coils_stock.JPG

I ordered progressive 5.5 lift coils also. Those above are linear.

[lmr81]

Looking good Barry ;).

[NissanNut]

Well the radius arms dont flex at all. If I try to make them flex. The spot welds pop. So I tore it all apart and relocated some stuff.

I did take both link mounts off and modify them. I moved them in 1". I have 33" clearance but I want to run 35s one day with no rubbing.

Going to make the upper links longer. If that dont work. Will make it a real 3 link + panhard.

Any ideas?? Will longer uppers work?

[theking]

Steering and trackbar are looking good.
Radius arms will always want to twist the axle, unless you have an infinitely long arm. 3 link is the only way to go.

[NissanNut]

Steering and trackbar are looking good.
Radius arms will always want to twist the axle, unless you have an infinitely long arm. 3 link is the only way to go.

Thats kind of what I did not want to hear. But I think I will go that route.

[theking]

You might get some decent flex if you replace one of the j joints on the upper links with rubber bushings. Maybe the top links off another pathy. Just an idea. But, i don't think you'll be satisfied until u go with with the 3link.

[NissanNut]

I am leaning towards 3 link.

Here is some pix of todays experimenting.

one radius arm flexs best.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/radius_arm_tests/droop.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/radius_arm_tests/bottom_out.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/radius_arm_tests/14travel_frt.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/radius_arm_tests/14travel_pass.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/radius_arm_tests/DSC00959.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/radius_arm_tests/DSC00960.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/radius_arm_tests/test3.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/radius_arm_tests/test2.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/radius_arm_tests/test7.jpg

Learned allot today. But no happy with results.

[theking]

Ahh yes. Looks all too familiar. maybe, move your trac bar up, bump stop it and settle for lots of droop. Or, bite the bullet and move your steering box forward. And, it looks like you might have to anyway!

[NissanNut]

Which way move the track bar? I cant picture it.

The steering seems to be perfect. I can get full lock with no binding. I can get 14" of droop. I dont need that much.

I am going to try to mount the 3rd link like yours.

[NissanNut]

OK here is some mockup tests of a 3link. Note the upper link is not yet connected to frame. Trying to find the best place and length.

ride height. (note new upper link on pumpkin)
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/frt_level_ride_height.jpg

I moved the buckets up 2". I had to trim the inner fender.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/ride_height.jpg

Partial down travel (lower link hit the jack stand.)
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/down_travel_moced.jpg

Up travel from ride height -3.5"
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/bottomed_out_driver.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/bottomed_out_driver_back.jpg
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/bottomed_out_mocked.jpg

Full up upper link mockup.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/upper_link_clearance_mockup.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/coil_springs_mocked.jpg

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/shock_location_mocked.jpg

coil retainer mocked.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/coil_retainer_mocked.jpg

[theking]

Hell that's lookin good. I was just thinking to get some more up travel above the pumpkin move both trac bar mounts up a bit. But it looks pretty damn good the way it is!

[NissanNut]

Hell that's lookin good. I was just thinking to get some more up travel above the pumpkin move both trac bar mounts up a bit. But it looks pretty damn good the way it is!

Thanks. I am copying your upper link idea. Mine will be a little longer. I could probably make it a 5 link like the rear. Seems to be room. I am real happy with the 3 link idea after reading this magazine article though.

Allpro owners daily driver with a 3 link.

http://www.allprooffroad.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=80

http://www.off-roadweb.com/features/0607or_solid_axle_toyota_tacoma/

I did not know they sold a KIT! Wow. All johnny joint links.


Kenny are you the only Nissan with a 3 link SAS? I do not know any others.

[theking]

I have yet to see another 3 link nissan. I basically had my mind made up when i bought my axle. The guy had an 02 Taco with the Allpro kit and i was impressed. Plus i saw the flex on Actionjackson's LandCruiser! The only thing i would change is maybe making the upper link mount taller. i read somewhere the rule of thuimb is 1/3 or 1/4 the tire diameter. I'm well short of that. There is alot of force on that link when you hit the brakes!

By the way, your website (nissannut.com) helped me tremendously, too.

[Ryan Gee]

Ya, I have been eyeballing Actionjackson's LandCruiser for awhile.

Here is the writeup I have read about a 1000 times.

http://www.4x4review.com/tech/fj80-3Link.asp

[NissanNut]

Ya, I have been eyeballing Actionjackson's LandCruiser for awhile.

Here is the writeup I have read about a 1000 times.

http://www.4x4review.com/tech/fj80-3Link.asp

That was the first write up I found when I goggled johnny joints a while ago. I like his ideas. RH rod ends etc.

[NissanNut]

I have yet to see another 3 link nissan. I basically had my mind made up when i bought my axle. The guy had an 02 Taco with the Allpro kit and i was impressed. Plus i saw the flex on Actionjackson's LandCruiser! The only thing i would change is maybe making the upper link mount taller. i read somewhere the rule of thuimb is 1/3 or 1/4 the tire diameter. I'm well short of that. There is alot of force on that link when you hit the brakes!

By the way, your website (nissannut.com) helped me tremendously, too.



Thanks. I am thinking about adding another upper link. A true 5 link just like the rear. There seems to be room. I have a seen a long arm pathy flex like mad with stock bushing. Just imagine all jjoints. I can make my frt links the same size as the new rear ones. All uppers and all lowers be the same size. I just need to roll my track bar a little for a tower.

[theking]

You get that upper link sorted out?

[NissanNut]

You get that upper link sorted out?

My DOM should arrive Wednesday per fedex. Just waiting for that.

My wife bought Me a plasma cutter today. Its my bday/fathers day/xmas gift.:laughing: :(

Just cut off the rear lower link brackets. It works!!!!:bannana: :bannana: :bannana:

How long are your lower links Ryan and Kenny others??r?

I was thinking 33". Upper is 11" stock and lower is 21.5ish. I wanted to do 35" to equal the front but I am using the Nissan ends so they will be different regardless. Need to install correct springs and mock it up.

[NissanNut]

My DOM just arrived a day early.:cool:

Now I just need to decide on some measurements.

[Packman5280]

36" lowers and 18.75" uppers. i am using ryan's jig, i just went out and measured.

[NissanNut]

Thats a wierd number 18.75". My lowers are 21.5. Are you not using the old lowers as uppers? I have the I beam style.

Did anyone lengthen there rear driveshaft? I dont plan too.

[Packman5280]

no, not using the old lowers as uppers. i'm just using ryan's jig, but by his math the lowers would have to be munch longer than they are to keep the same ratio as stock, and i could see how they would hit the crossmember with how we both have the links inboard of the frame rails. haven't lengthened the rear drive shaft, not sure how that will work though.

[theking]

My rear links are all stock. I just raised the link mounts on the axle.


Your wife must think you're a wonderful man.lol

[NissanNut]

no, not using the old lowers as uppers. i'm just using ryan's jig, but by his math the lowers would have to be munch longer than they are to keep the same ratio as stock, and i could see how they would hit the crossmember with how we both have the links inboard of the frame rails. haven't lengthened the rear drive shaft, not sure how that will work though.

OK I did not know He made a jig. I thought everyone was put the lower up and just making the lower one 11" longer than the upper one.

I dont want to modify my rear driveshaft. I know Datz510 mentioned it once.

[NissanNut]

My rear links are all stock. I just raised the link mounts on the axle.


Your wife must think you're a wonderful man.lol:roflmao: :cut:

I have seen you and your bros setup. Very ingenius. I have seen stock 5 links no sway bar, longer shocks flex REALLY good. I just want to some what match the front. I am using 2" .250 wall for the lowers to match the front.

[tbecktold]

Man Barry you got SKILLZ YO! That is some really clean looking work there, can't wait to see this thing in action!

Are you going to post up your total costs like you did with the HB? And on the sua setup too? It'll be cool to see how they all compare, maybe a price:flex ratio?:D

[NissanNut]

Thanks. I already have a xls sheet off the running total. I do that before I buy my first part or start the SAS. I started this xls sheet 3 months before I bought the 92 pathy. The only items I have not ordered that I know I need are 3 shocks. I will post it up later today. This will make it drivable. No frt gears or driveshaft in the budget yet.

I just decided on the upper link mount today. Been trying different mounting ideas and locations. The new mount is almost done. Just going to add some more gussets before I weld to the frame.

I took a break from the front end and got one rear link fabbed and installed. Also finally added some needed outlets to the garage here and there. So much to do. Also had to make a new pitman for the SUA. Underneath was hitting the sway bar.

[Ryan Gee]

Haven't lengthened the rear drive shaft, not sure how that will work though.

Jamie, my old shaft will be laying around here soon....

[Packman5280]

sweet, i'm gonna need a bunch of your old parts. what are you doing with your front shaft?

[NissanNut]

Well the radius arms are history. I finally got the upper link installed. Its a tight squeeze but it fits.

I have more than enough travel bind free. Just need to add driveshaft and do the flex tests again. But looks good so far.



Just need to finish welding and add some gussets.

the custom upper link mount.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/uplink_pkt_pieces.JPG

compressed http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/upper_link_compressed_insode.jpg
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/upper_link_compressed_close.jpg

ride height
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/upper_link_ride_outside.jpg
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/upper_mount_ride_inside.jpg
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/ride_height_mocked.jpg
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/upper_link_outside_close.jpg

droop.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/pass_up_flex_test.JPG

[NissanNut]

Well I have lots of pix to edit and post. Got the headers on. Got the y pipe on today. I did a quick test drive.

One of the rear drum bleeder nipples snapped off. So I did not have rear brakes. Need to install rear discs.



http://nissannut.com/92_WD21/frt_done_angle.jpg

http://nissannut.com/92_WD21/frt_done.jpg

http://nissannut.com/92_WD21/pside_done.jpg


http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/2wd_done/frt_done_side.jpg


http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/2wd_done/rear_view_pside.jpg


http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/2wd_done/rear_view_dside.jpg

Now to finish the long arm.

[Ryan Gee]

Barry there is a disk brake rear end up here at one of the yards... are you coming up this summer?

Your Pathy looks awesome!

[tbecktold]

Wow, that's SEXY! Let's see a flex shot or two!

[Packman5280]

looks damn good!

[NissanNut]

Barry there is a disk brake rear end up here at one of the yards... are you coming up this summer?

Your Pathy looks awesome!

Thanks, but I already picked up a complete h233b with discs and 4.9 and 4.6 open diff. Just need time to install. I think I will throw the discs in tomorrow real quick since I broke the drum nipple. Ionly got it up to 15mph.

My family is having a reunion in Durango area next month. Going white water rafting and camping.

[csutke]

lookin good!!

[NissanNut]

Wow, that's SEXY! Let's see a flex shot or two!

Still have to install 4.9 frt and rear. install frt shaft,butcher y pipe, crossmember etc.

I think I will try to flex it out though in 2wd.:D

[Packman5280]

i got some extra nipples, could send you one if you don't get a chance to get the disks in.

[NissanNut]

i got some extra nipples, could send you one if you don't get a chance to get the disks in.

Thanks for the offer. I think I still have the original hardbody drum parts. But It should be a simple swap to discs. Allot simpler on a wd21 compared to a truck. I bought a complete h233b. The brake hard lines are different between drum and disc.


It rained all day yesterday NON stop. I ll try to get some better pix today.

[NissanNut]

Here is some of the first test drive shots. I even took it on the highway to the TNT meeting.


flex with car ramp
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/2wd_done/driver_side_ramp.jpg

rear sway bar is ON.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/2wd_done/frt_ramp_rear.jpg

close up of some down travel.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/2wd_done/driver-side_rear_ramp_closeup.jpg

Its tall on 5.5 coils.
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/2wd_done/pass_side.jpg

First long trip from home. The FREEWAY!!!
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/2wd_done/4_pathys.JPG

[NissanNut]

Well It drives real nice. Very smooth! Much better than my leafy truck. Rides better than My Quest. I only have a rear sway bar. But once I install a front it will be a perfect daily driver. I am driving it daily day anyways, My truck needs a break. My kids love it.

Here is some flex shots Me and My buddy took after work.


http://nissannut.com/92_WD21/driver_ramp.JPG

http://nissannut.com/92_WD21/pass_ramp.JPG

http://nissannut.com/92_WD21/frt_ramp.JPG

Rear swaybar is "ON". Plenty of flex. Feels nice and smooth. 3 link is the way to go!!! I highly recommend it!

Some more pix here;

http://www.mudman98.com/events/EORJuly07

[ChefTyler]

Lookin' good Barry! I'd like to see it and I happen to be in Arlington till Saturday morning :D

[NissanNut]

I ll be home thursday afternoon. Come on over.

[Allen Cox]

Dude, that is one clean Pathy. Nice job!

[theking]

did you end up selling your silver SUA pathy? bet it's no comparison to the new beast.

[Ryan Gee]

did you end up selling your silver SUA pathy? bet it's no comparison to the new beast.

That belongs to a friend of his...

[zonianbrat]

Very nice job!!! Pathies look awesome sas'd.

[theking]

I miss the days when i would have been happy with 33's. I'm jealous. Pathy looks so nice with everything intact. I really like that color too.

[NissanNut]

Thanks Guys. Yeah the Gold one is SUA. That is Lmr81s. I plan to run 35s. But I got a great deal on these 5 33s from My buddy mudman. He went up to 36s.

My front 4.88s just arrived today.:D

[NissanNut]

I guess I forgot this thread. I ran into problems with the axle shafts. I had to use an angle grinder to remove the rusty carrier. And change the u joints. Then I realized my free shafts were 3" too long. So I was running out of time. I bought some Yukon chromolys and reused the stock outer stubs. Well I made a driveshaft from a jeep XJ, $30 off ebay. Drive it around at 45mph in 4wd. Then 2 days later drove out to Hot Springs AR. I also lowered the rear 2.5" and frt 1.5.

Here is my new daily driver:

http://nissannut.com/trips/Hot_Springs_2007/frt_flesx_rmp.JPG


Here is some new action shots. Level 5 trail!

http://nissannut.com/trips/Hot_Springs_2007/d2uphill.JPG

At the top.

http://nissannut.com/trips/Hot_Springs_2007/d2uphill_top.JPG


With my other daily driver:
http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/4wd_done/flex_frt_passenger.jpg

[Ryan Gee]

Awesome!!!

[Sully4x4]

Wow, that is another amazing rig man. I love the pic with the 3 badass customized nissans and then the stock one....it really gives me a perspective as to how small and not-so-badass mine is =P. Only pathfinder I have seen with all the work is Packman's, and that was in the dark on a cold snowy night. How long and how much money did that take you to do? Wanna do mine for me? :roflmao:

[NissanNut]

Thanks guys, I bought the pathy in March. Work on it a few hours here and there. Plan was to build a family friendly version of my truck. I have two kids. I normally take one at a time wheeling. I have about 3-4k + the $1800 purchase price. in the pathy right now. That is the sas, long arm rear, cb, timing belt, locker, tune up, rims etc. Tires were free.

Trying to get it ready for Moab 2008.

Since I cant help everyone build up there Nissans. I try to document what I have tried and what works and what dont.

[Ryan Gee]

Where we camping in 2008?

[Sully4x4]

So you have about 3-4K invested in the SAS? That's including the axle and everything?

[NissanNut]

Where we camping in 2008?

Slickrock was pretty good. I have never been to any others in that area. It would be nice if they had wireless internet near the cabins. We had to walk up to the office everyday with laptops to get online. It was rough.:roflmao:

Ben and Clay were there. I forget the other CO xterra. I am open to suggestions.

[NissanNut]

So you have about 3-4K invested in the SAS? That's including the axle and everything?

Yep. I just checked my spreadsheet. about $3500 for the SAS. Prices vary widely with SAS. So many new and used parts. I splurged and spent $250 on chromolys because my dana 44 came with no shafts. But it had more than the other axle. It had calipers, steering, manual hubs etc. I did not use the steering or hubs. But could have.

[Sully4x4]

With such an extensive project it seems like it would be so much more expensive. I guess I might be doing a SAS in the far future =P.

[theking]

Wow Barry. You got a good deal on that Pathy! Lookin bitchin. You need to bring it out here for some real rockcrawling terrain :rainfro:

[NissanNut]

Yeah it had a hole in the muffler, broken AC when I bought it. Super clean inside. I had to buy a $30 dash vent thats all.

I would love to wheel in the CA deserts I use to ride in. My Sisters kids ride atv and dirt bikes out there now.