Rebuilding from the frame up :)

[CurleyMan]

Well it's about time i make my truck look like the expensive rig it is....

So junked the Bed which was getting too much rock rash as is. Tomorrow I will meet with one of the Nissan guru's so we can rebrace the frame and place the pathy tank. I thought about posting everything once i finished but changed my mind. So i will post as I go, in the end it should look nothing like this......
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/gocart002.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/gocart001.jpg
An allpro style bed, crawler gears, crew cab, headers, inboarded rear springs, and repainted frame are in the works starting tomorrow.
:torch:
:weld:
:cut:

[tbecktold]

Crew cab or extended? Sounds sweet, I'd like to do something like that, only to a Pathy, someday! (excab/allpro style bed). Are you going to bob the frame up to the shackles? Are you bending the tube yourself, getting the AllPro kit, or having a shop build the flattie for you? I've thought about doing the tube bed on my HB, but don't have quite enough rock rash there to warrant it. Keep us posted, I can't wait to see this finished!

[bogof]

Sweet can't wait to see how it turns out!

[CurleyMan]

Crew cab or extended? Sounds sweet, I'd like to do something like that, only to a Pathy, someday! (excab/allpro style bed). Are you going to bob the frame up to the shackles? Are you bending the tube yourself, getting the AllPro kit, or having a shop build the flattie for you? I've thought about doing the tube bed on my HB, but don't have quite enough rock rash there to warrant it. Keep us posted, I can't wait to see this finished!

Extended cab D21 i already have the body in my back yard... I've always had a shop do my work so i plan on doing this build with friends. Yes we will bob it back to the shackes. I cannot use the allpro kit because the bed will only be 40 inches once the extended cab is on. And well between Alex, Ryan, Jeremy, cameron, and I we will bend the Dom tubes and build it better then any shop. Although I do plan on having alphase do the Big hoop that sits behind the cab...

[Allen Cox]

Let me know when you need some help, I'm kinda OK with a wrench. I may even bring some beer!

When you planning on those crawlers?

[tmorgan4]

I got the memo late that you guys would be working on it up here in FTC today. I can't imagine you'll be spending too much time on the board while working on it, but I wouldn't mind stopping by. Can't quite remember where Ben told me he lives.

[NissanNut]

Sounds like a great plan. I love the King Cabs. Just the right amount of room.

I use my bed too much to bob it. 8' lumber/drywall etc sticks out almost 1' as is with the gate down.

[theking]

Where'd ya get the cab from, if i may ask?

[Alpine Spirit]

Junk Yard in Denver.

[Alex Topousis]

Here are some picks from today at Ryan's house
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/DSCN0390.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/DSCN0393.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/DSCN0397.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/DSCN0398.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/DSCN0396.jpg

[Alex Topousis]

my mod for the day was adding a pathy gas tank to replace my backseat, the filler hose comes conveniently out my rear window:crazy:
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/DSCN0389.jpg

[tmorgan4]

For some reason I thought Ryan was coming up to Fort Collins. Guess I'll have to join you guys next time. :cool:

[theking]

Wow, that's an attractive driveway. I was talkin about the Nissans, no offense fellas.lol

Hey, that gas tank mod seems to be chatching on :D

[Ryan Gee]

Last week the neighborhood was taken over with Nissans! The only IFS was the one laying in the driveway.

[CurleyMan]

Thanks for the support guy's we put atleast ten hours of work into the truck on sunday. I'll post some pic's when i'm done with work today. Tmorgan we will be putting the cab on in fort collins i'll let you know before we start :)....

[DamnHippie]

Sweet rebuild.

You guys need to post up just before you do these mod days, instead of after. I'd've been up for some heavy steel work this weekend, I'll bet Martin woulda come along too. (Of course, too many helpers can be a bad thing.)

[Nissanclay]

Let me know if you are working on it April 1. I would love to come over and get in the way...... mean help out.

[NissanNut]

Nice work! Cant wait to wheel with You guys at Moab! How many king cab d21 SAS trucks will there be now? 3+.:laughing:

:bannana: :bannana: :bannana:

[Alpine Spirit]

Looks GREAT!!

[Nissanclay]

Last week the neighborhood was taken over with Nissans! The only IFS was the one laying in the driveway.

Your neighbors must love you.

[Ryan Gee]

They do every snow storm!

[Packman5280]

Last week the neighborhood was taken over with Nissans! The only IFS was the one laying in the driveway.

and my civic:crazy:

[Nissanclay]

and my civic:crazy:

Well I don't want to mess things up by bringing my IFS and lowering the Nissan coolness factor. :bannana: :bannana: :bannana:

[Crawln79bronco]

Well note to self and Ben dont tell the girls we will be back at 6:00PM and show up around 12:00AM when we start a project like this. Mine was a little mad till she saw the sweet arc burn I got on my face and eyes. She felt me not being able to open my eyes was punishment enough. My own dumb fault.

[CurleyMan]

My eyes are toasty also maybe next time i won't watch the plasma cutter in action

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/bobbedbed013.jpg
Led lights will be placed inside the rear bumper this is just temporary

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/bobbedbed014.jpg
As Ryans friend Paul pointed out the pathy tank just looks like it belongs..

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/bobbedbed015.jpg
I still need to clean everything up and whatnot but it's in place and built right.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/bobbedbed016.jpg
Ryan and Cameron plated the frame in many places because of the rust..

[CurleyMan]

Allen, hopefully the gears will arrive this friday I'll be tearing the cab off and dropping the t-case this weekend. I'd like to get the case and gears to you ASAP so you can work on it without being rushed. I'd love it if you would install the gears for me as i trust you with my t-case more then Allphase. I can't find the post but i think you said you'd do it for 250 right?

[Alex Topousis]

That looks really good! I wish I could have stayed but it would have been hard to miss that hockey game.

[theking]

It's lookin' awesome.

[bodyman909]

What a perfect place for a gas tank!..nice idea.

[CurleyMan]

Thanks i really appreciate the comments. I owe Alex, Cameron and Ryan soo much for all the help and time they put into this on sunday. If there is something about my truck i hate it's the rear springs. I really want to go quarter elipticle but don't have the 1000 extra bucks before gone moab to do it. The rear is the only thing keeping me from gaining the 1000 points i want on the RTI ramp. Does anyone here understand leaf spring geometry well enough to recommend a cheap fix.

[Alex Topousis]

its kinda dangerous and the type of wheeling you do would double that danger but you could try revolver shackles until you can afford 1/4 eliptical. I wouldnt ever use them but it is an option

[Packman5280]

maybe, what's the problem? where are they stopping?

[Allen Cox]

Allen, hopefully the gears will arrive this friday I'll be tearing the cab off and dropping the t-case this weekend. I'd like to get the case and gears to you ASAP so you can work on it without being rushed. I'd love it if you would install the gears for me as i trust you with my t-case more then Allphase. I can't find the post but i think you said you'd do it for 250 right?
Yepper!

Just let me know when it's all ready, and we'll get you all fixed up.

I'm not positive, but I think Lance may have a leg up on spring stuff. I know he's a guru on shock stuff (man's a genius there!).

[NissanNut]

Looks great. You guys do nice work.

That tank may help the springs. You want weight after the axle to compress them. Try putting some more weight on or after the axle. Thats why I have my spare and hi lift were they are. These trucks are very light in the rear stock. Once you build a flat it might be ok. I would test again before changing springs.

[Ryan Gee]

He is about to gain the weight of the cab and the flat bed. I agree with Barry.

[Giancarlo93]

Ok, very dumb question, what is the pourpose of changing the gast tank?

[Alpine Spirit]

Well eventually if you plan on doing a 4 link rear the stock tank is in the way.

[theking]

Curley, you should try dual shackles.

[CurleyMan]

The first reason i lost the stock tank was that it was leaking. The stock tank also only held 15 gallons this one holds 21. As far as advantages there are many weight in the rear is one and space for the battery is another. The only problem i have with the tank is that my fuel guage doesn't work now. I'm assuming that this has to do with the electrical signals being different between the pathy computer and hardbody. Another possibility is that the signals are different between the 6 and 4 cyl tanks. If this is the case i will need to trade pumps or ECU units...

As far as the rear springs they need more weight to flex better no doubt there. However even when they have weight they don't do as well as the front. Once everything is built i'll test it if im still hurting i'll take a spring out. If that doesn't fix it i'll use dual shackles or revolvers for moab. ANd then it's probably gonna be air shocks or quarter eliptical. Air shocks are prone to problems and need to be recharged. Quarter elipticals are difficult to set up and i'd only let one shop do them (avalanche engineering). Both require suspention winches and mo money....

I think the only way to solve this problem is to build the truck and then put it on the ramp. I'll post pictures of the springs the drrop, rise and length limits i have then we can revisit this question. It's too hard to explain right now without pictures...

[NissanNut]

The fuel sender does not talk to the ECU. Only the gauge in the dash. I know the truck is about 4ohm full, 90 empty. The pathy should be similar. I guess I could test mine if needed.

[CurleyMan]

hmmm do you remember which wire it is coming off the tank. ?

[Giancarlo93]

Ok, thanks for the info.

My pathfinder is 4 cylinder and my gas tank is 15 gallons and has no computer.
Is a carburated engine.
Is a very simple engine, it only uses 4 spark plugs instead of 8 like the fuel injected ones.

By the way i am openning the engine and doing a 100% overhaul.
Pistons .20, I bought a new cam mid range, new headers, besides all the new parts you have to put when yo do an overhaul.

I was loosing compresion in piston #4, the engine only has 165 thousand km.

Hey btw your car sounds likes is going to look very good when its finished, like I told Ryan, I want a SAS badly in my truck but I dont trust nobody here to do it, I guess im gonna have to pay the plane ticket to somebody to come here to Panama:)

[CurleyMan]

Thanks man for what it matters i did alot of research before I did my sas. Alot of small things needed to be fixed like my winch and other 4x4 related parts. I took the truck and winch to every shop i wanted to try. The one who took the winch took way to long and they where sloppy and unappreciative. The shop who put my previouse lift in charged me way too much and took to long. I did this (using small repairs to see who i liked) for about a year until i found the one I liked. They still didn't do everything perfect but they where easy to deal with and fixed what i didn't like so I was very happy in the end.

[NissanNut]

hmmm do you remember which wire it is coming off the tank. ?
Should be 2 wires for gauge. B black is ground. Y/G is for gauge.

Y is yellow I think, g is green. Yellow with a green stripe on truck. Connect this to y/pu. Yellow with a purple stripe.

[CurleyMan]

Thanks Barry i'll put the multi meter on it this weekend

[NissanNut]

Thanks Barry i'll put the multi meter on it this weekend

I looked in my FSMs. Looks like the pathy uses different colors than truck for some reason.

I an look at my actual pathy if needed.

[CurleyMan]

Yes this is true but the disconnects plug in the same so it's easy to match the wires... thanks

[theking]

I'll be swapping cabs soon too. I'd like to see how many people it takes to lift that sucka.

[Packman5280]

you getting rid of the 2dr cab?

[CurleyMan]

I took everything off my old cab and with the help of jeremy, Cameron, Alex and a few others we got the old cab off...
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved001.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved002.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved003.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved005.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved007.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved008.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved010.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved011.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved012.jpg

[CurleyMan]

ooops I don't know how that got in there:bannana: :bannana:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved013.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved015.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved016.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/cabremoved017.jpg

Of coarse i had to tarp it and shrinkwrap it. I'll remove the t-case tomorrow night and run this and the gears down to the nissan master tech (Allen)in denver. Then it's all about sanding and repainting the frame.....

[Alex Topousis]

you getting steph back for that april fools joke or what? lol:bannana:

[CurleyMan]

no i'm not allowed to :( it was just a pic from after the bars a couple weeks ago....

[NissanNut]

Lookin good.

[M12hockey]

hey curley what are doing with your cab...i know a guy who might want it? he wants to put it on a2 wheel drive nissan. lemme know

[CurleyMan]

he can have it but let me know soon cause it's ready to go to the scrap yard..

[lmr81]

Looking good Curley :cool:. Is there going to be an issue with the body mount locations for the single vs king cab?

[Ryan Gee]

Ben I think you need to bolt a lawn chair on that... forget the cab! hehe

[Alex Topousis]

make that thing a hybrid
http://www.emmitsburg.net/humor/pictures/2005/horse_drawn_car.JPG

[CurleyMan]

oh i'll just cut and reweld one of the body mounts.

[cameron_garrison]

make that thing a hybrid
http://www.emmitsburg.net/humor/pictures/2005/horse_drawn_car.JPG

i saw a volkswagon trike like that with the back half of a karmangia it looks awsome

[theking]

How's the frame painting goin'? Maybe just a pressure wash and brush on some rustoleum?

[NissanNut]

Hows the the progress Ben? Or are you guys buried in snow?

[CurleyMan]

The weather is good.... Allen has rebuilt my t-case with the calmini gears. I have repainted the frame and replaced the tranny mount. The cab must go on this weekend unless i want the city to take my truck from me.... I got the letter today!

[Packman5280]

haha, we got the letter for the mustang last week. it hasn't been registered since 2003, so it attracts attention. room mate called the inspector and asked if we could have a few more weeks, he gave us two, so i should be able to get it done in that amount of time. that might be something you could try.

[CurleyMan]

I just left that message an hour ago we will see what she says tomorrow whe she calls back.

[NissanNut]

Whats this about letters? Is the truck on the street or something? :confused:

[CurleyMan]

No it's in the back alley however the city will fine you and tow it away if an Inoperable vehicle is on your property in view of the public for more then 30 days. Mine has been inoperable for 15 days so they are a bit early with the letters. Either way i will have it back on one piece this weekend....

[NissanNut]

Wow never heard of that law. Can be a good thing though. I lived in a small city in CA and there was tons of abandoned cars in everyones driveways, yards, etc. pretty sad to see cars just rust away.

[Allen Cox]

My X is in the parking area, with the tags out of view. The neighbors don't mind it, so I haven't gotten that letter yet.

I'm getting the tags this week! Will be driving it on the nice days. Have to go through these teeny 33's before the 35's go on. :D

[Bill Potter]

Ben, I'll clean out my garage if you run out of options.

[CurleyMan]

Thanks man that's very kind of you. I have room in the garage and my back yard fence is 8 feet tall. So I can hide it quickly if need be. I just need it where it is right now so i can put the cab on.... Thank you i do appreciate the hospitality

[Alex Topousis]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/DSCN0459.jpg

bens pretty painted frame
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/DSCN0462.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/DSCN0467.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/DSCN0468.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/DSCN0474.jpg

finally mounted
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/DSCN0475.jpg

[Allen Cox]

Nice jobs fellas!

[NissanNut]

Very nice! It looks totally different now.:wrench:

You will love the King Cab! I just installed a CB speaker and 110v outlet on the back wall of mine. I also removed the rear seats. So much more room now. Those stock rear seats are HEAVY! Few more HP.:laughing:

[CurleyMan]

Thanks to everyone who donated their sunday to getting the cab on. Alex, Cameron, and Tyler I owe you guys big time. The truck looks soo good.... I Have a t-case built by Allen. The cab and frame redone by Cameron, Alex, Tyler and Ryan. I am much happier saying that then donning the Allphase sticker. Not to get mushy but putting this together with friends makes it worth soo much more.

[CurleyMan]

Except for when they scratched the frame paint job i had just finished.....:whack:

[Alex Topousis]

my eyes hurting after being around that welding today :cut:

[tbecktold]

SWEEEEEEET!!!! That looks a hell of a lot shorter than I thought it would, but REALLY nice! Are you going to have problems with the tires rubbing the cab or anything? I agree with Barry on the cab size, I know I love mine!

[Ryan Gee]

Our trucks are looking like sisters.... SWEET!

Looks like you guys had a good time!

[ChefTyler]

Anytime Ben! It was a blast, especially winching/pulling the HB into the back yard, diggin' the teamwork :D

[Alpine Spirit]

Really lookin good!!!

[hbdesert]

Can't wait to see it in Moab. While Xterras are still in the majority, there is going to be more of a mix this year.

See you in Moab!

Doug

[NissanNut]

Can't wait to see it in Moab. While Xterras are still in the majority, there is going to be more of a mix this year.

See you in Moab!

Doug

Whats an Xterra?:confused:

[Alex Topousis]

hey Ben, heres an idea. It would obviously be different on a HB but its a tubed front
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/billstubedjeep.jpg

[Alex Topousis]

heres a couple more pics of it
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/billstubedjeep2.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/atopousis/billstubedjeep3.jpg

[CurleyMan]

Can't wait to see it in Moab. While Xterras are still in the majority, there is going to be more of a mix this year.

See you in Moab!

Doug

I didn't know it was for xterra's?

[Boulder Cruiser]

Looks awesome!

[CurleyMan]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/newcab003.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/newcab002.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/newcab001.jpg

some pics I took today... sorry they are blurry it was a low light situation....

[cameron_garrison]

that looks awsome its always more rewarding doing work with just you and friends insted of paying a shop to do it. whats the wheelbase on that

[CurleyMan]

104 inches -bone stock for the standard cab and pathfinder!!!

[cameron_garrison]

nice i never realized they were that short

[CurleyMan]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/newcab002-1.jpg

Looks alien almost like the preditor.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/newcab008.jpg

The winch and radiator are off for the time being. I wish i could put the radiator in the back and rebuild the front so it would be shorter. However the guy who has put his radiator in the back would kill me if I copied him :).

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/newcab007.jpg

So the stinger support and shock hoop are going to be the base for the tubed front clip. I think it will work very well but i also think it may end up a little ugly. Which is fine cause i'm not very good lookin anyway...

[CurleyMan]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/newcab009.jpg

[CurleyMan]

This up coming moab trip is gonna make it all so worth the time and effort....
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/MOAB/MOABUT004.jpg

[XXX Blonde]

Oh my God I love you!

[NissanNut]

Oh my God I love you!

This is wierd.:rainfro:

Looks great! It will be easy to work on the engine stuff without those stupid welded on inner fenders. I opened my holes on the truck for header access. I would love to make those removal. I was thinking about one day doing a tube over the radiator like the jeeps do, just in case.

[Ryan Gee]

Oh my God I love you!

Wendy... you can't love him! You are mine! :bannana:

[CurleyMan]

Wendy how much did you drink last night lol... Thanks Barry the rust was soo bad it was nessasary. My radiator was only attached at the top and one of the body mounts in the front was rusted through. With the front clip gone I now no longer have any of the rotten east coast body. It's gonna be hard to figure out I don't know weather to use the fenders again or just the hood because I will be pinching it quite a bit.....

[Alpine Spirit]

Oh my God I love you!

:confused: HUH

This is wierd.:rainfro:



OH YEAH really Wierd...

Wendy... you can't love him! You are mine! :bannana:

Things just keep getting wierder!!! :eek:

Wendy how much did you drink last night lol...

Ahhhh Everything explained..... almost. :crazy:

[Packman5280]

wow, just wow.

[tbecktold]

Wow, weird.

I think it'd be cool to see you reuse the fenders, even pinched a lot I think it'd help make your truck look recognizable as a Nissan. If you don't it's just a frame with a Nissan cab on it, and you might as well run with no body and lots of tube. Which would be cool as well, I just kinda think the cab being the only body on there looks kind of half-done.

[ChefTyler]

It'll still look like a Nissan when Ben is done, I would photochop it, but I'm too lazy :D

[CurleyMan]

I'll explain more when I get my door locks fixed but the wiring harness doesn't work. I have a 1986.5 truck with a 1988 cab with what looks like totally different wiring. Why is this they where both 4cyl trucks?

[NissanNut]

I know the ECU codes are tbi wiring is different from 86.5 and 88. Nissan only made a 86.5 and 88 FSM. Not such thing as a 87 fsm.

Whats the issue? You have power door locks? power windows? I have a 88 fsm and 86. The 86 is pure 720 though.

[CurleyMan]

no power locks, heated mirrors or electric windows. What is FSM? The harness coming off the 88 cab is compleate however the harness on my 86.5 engine seems to be much more involved. (on the 88 cab)I have a bundle of wires coming off the driver side and then another coming off the passenger side. The passenger side is mostly made up of relays. (on the 86.5 body) I have a huge set of wires running from the driver side to the passenger side of the truck. They run infront of the top of the radiator and handle the lights, blinkers, ect. I don't remember seeing this on the 88 truck when Ryan and i popped the cab off. We where very carefull to unclip every part of the harness. What should I do, should I ignore the 86.5 harness and try to adapt the new one?

[Alex Topousis]

FSM= factory service manual

[nissandoms47]

Can't you put your old cab harness into the new one? Or is it destroyed or something.

[Allen Cox]

Were the engines the same (Z24 vs. KA24)? I'd bet that's the difference. 8 spark plugs vs. 4, 2 coils vs. 1, etc..

I'd offer some assistance, but I'm heading down a 9" swap this weekend, with a master cylinder conversion to boot.

[NissanNut]

Were the engines the same (Z24 vs. KA24)? I'd bet that's the difference. 8 spark plugs vs. 4, 2 coils vs. 1, etc..

I'd offer some assistance, but I'm heading down a 9" swap this weekend, with a master cylinder conversion to boot.

I think KA started in 90. I put a 87 z24i engine in my 85 720 (z24 carb). I had problems becuase the harness was an 88+. I had to swap TBIs. One was 6 pin one was 8 or something.

I would use the original 86.5 if possible, since the engines is 86.5. But I do have an 88 wiring harness schematic if needed. I can scan and email.

[NissanNut]

Also the ecu codes are DIFFERENT from -87 to 88+. One was 33 all clear one is 55.

90 is the ka year. z24i is 86 720--89d21 and other models, stanza, Van etc.

[CurleyMan]

Ok It is the exact same motor z24 with 8 plugs and two coils. I saved my 86.5 ECU but the 86.5 wiring harness is destroyed so I cannot use it. Barry if you have the wiring scematic i'd appreciate a copy. I think I may place the old ecu in my 88 cab and try to hook the 88 harness to my 86.5 truck. Is this my best option?

[NissanNut]

You may have to. Does the 86.5 ecu plug into the 88 harness?

Do you have the engine harness part of the 86.5? or the 88? If you have both check the TBI connectors. They should be totally different. Mine were.

I will start scanning the pages.

[CurleyMan]

OK so for what it matter I have almost connected the drivers side harness. I am having difficulty with some parts of the harness. I have a cable that goes no-where next to the distributor. I have an o2 sensor and I don't know what cable connects to it. Barry If you either have the schematic or a place where i could find it on line I'd appreciate it. Also M12hockey (mike) if you have a 4cyl post 87 hardbody i'd apreciate the chance to look at your rig and take pictures of the harness hookup.

[tbecktold]

Ben I also have an '86.5, I could take some pics if it would help out. I have no idea where the harness etc is located etc, but I could take some pics if it's not too hard to get to.

[CurleyMan]

hmmm Thanks man But I need the 88 or later model. I appreciate your offer though...

[NissanNut]

The is a bunch of wiring diagrams in the FSM. Dash, lights, engine , ignition. One huge 4 page wiring one.

Here is the harness connecters (http://nissannut.com/projects/z24i_fuel_injection/harness_con.jpg) and labels (http://nissannut.com/projects/z24i_fuel_injection/harness_label.JPG). Let me know what you need.

These are big 500k jpgs.

[CurleyMan]

I'm gonna need to buy you some beers at Gone Moab thanks Barry you saved the day....

[NissanNut]

Yep 88 FSM. No problem. Let me know if you need any others. Its a huge book.

[CurleyMan]

Thanks for stopping by yesterday Mike. I think i'll need to go off the 4cyl engine diagram. However it calms me to know that your harness has a buch of dead end go nowhere wires. I don't know why nissan did that but who cares it works right.

[ChefTyler]

Ben, did you get her up and running?

[NissanNut]

The extra connectors are for features you dont have. They use one harness for all models.

Nissan used to use blue tape around features not used. Like cruise cntrol, electric shocks etc.

[CurleyMan]

I never knew that... So Barry do I need to change throttle bodies. I heard either from you or someone else that the throttle body changed in 1988?

Tyler I have been to buisy this week so it is mostly gonna be a weekend chore. I need to put the longer shocks in the front and build the battery support box as well. We will not touch the front clip but I think i will get her started this weekend with water in the radiator just tomake sure everything runs.

And here is Estin's rig.....
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/th_media1-1.jpg (http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/media1-1.jpg)
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/th_media1.jpg (http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/media1.jpg)

I may put the fenders on as i do want to but my truck may look more like estins toyota by the time moab rolls around.

[NissanNut]

If the 86 throttle body plugs into the 88 harness your fine. But if they dont it may be easier to find a 88-89 tbi. Than rewire ecus etc.

[theking]

You still gonna pinch the front end. Exo's not done but you get the idea. I only cut about 6" off each side.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/kennylauter909/My%20SAS/IMG_1200.jpg

[NissanNut]

You still gonna pinch the front end. Exo's not done but you get the idea. I only cut about 6" off each side.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/kennylauter909/My%20SAS/IMG_1200.jpg

That looks real nice work! But does it leave room for tunr signals and headlights?

[sammyb33]

That looks real nice work! But does it leave room for tunr signals and headlights?

it looks like it isnt going to have the normal pathy headlights.....

[CurleyMan]

sweet job we will see what I do but i feel it will look alot like yours..... Right now i am trying to figure out how to make my TBI work with this wiring harness. It is a huge problem and unless i can find someone with a 86.5 and 88-89 4cyl i am going to have to guess with the wires.....

[theking]

I feel ya. Wiring sux.

Headlights are TBA, probly stand 7" rounds.

[NissanNut]

I can scan the 88 tbi schematic when I get home.

Worse case I will fedx the FSM to you if you want.

[McClurgM]

Curley.....I have an 87 Pathy with the Z24i (8 plugs) let me know if i can help with pics or what not. I am in Fort Collins

Matthew

[NissanNut]

I found this wiring diagram.

http://nissannut.com/projects/z24i_fuel_injection/injectors.JPG

Let me know if you need more.

[CurleyMan]

sorry my computer has been down for the past week.... Is that injector diagram from a 88 or 86.5 truck. McClurge I may want to take a look at your engine tomorrow after work if that's ok with you....

[NissanNut]

88 FSM. I dont have anything for a 86.5 except a Haynes book.

[McClurgM]

Not a problem......I am off work at 6.
I will PM you!:)

[NissanNut]

Any news? :confused:

[CurleyMan]

barry i am sorry my computer has been broken for awhile and i've been doing nothing but working on the truck! Allen Cox took a look at the wiring harness and thinks that I had it hooked up right. See ya in moab buddy

[NissanNut]

COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am leaving tonight, :bannana: :bannana:

[CurleyMan]

I guess in the Gone moab rush of 2007 I forgot to post pics of the truck

Here is The front with the nissan hood chopped but not yet painted...

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/hood.jpg

I'll take some pic's of the rest of the truck tomorrow if I have time....

[CurleyMan]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/hood2.jpg

[Sully4x4]

I can't believe all the work you put into that. There is no way in hell I would have the time, knowledge, space, or anything you did. But it paid off, it looks great!

[Nissanclay]

OMG it has a hood!

[Reserector]

Curleyman, do you still need the wiring diagrams? I am pretty sure I have what you are looking for.

I have an 86.5. With what appears to be an '88 or later TB. It has two wires coming from the throttle body that go nowhere on my harness. My harness has a 6-pin connector where the later models have an 8-pin connector. The two extra wires, if I am not mistaken, are for an idle adjuster. I think it is supposed to work with the power steering or something. The extra two wires are taped up on mine.
Mine runs fine in warm weather, but hates to stay running on cold mornings. I don't know if it is realated or not.

Anyway, if you want, I can email the diagrams to you. Shoot me an email. reserector@mississippi-mud.com

[ChefTyler]

Damn, Ben, I was diggin the no hood look :D

[CurleyMan]

Thanks bud I did figure it out actually not till after Moab... It turns out I needed an 88 TBI but the 86.5 worked long enough to get me through moab... thanks though.

Yea I finally put it on.. I should have listened to Ryan when he suggested it in May.. It only took 30 min's and 6 cut off discs...

[CurleyMan]

I know it is the least important addition but whatever it's gonna snow someday soon..

[CurleyMan]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/Rampandlift/GetAttachmentaspx.jpg
Yes I had to use the camera phone so the pics kinda suck

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/Rampandlift/flex2.jpg
check out the pass side leaf spring.... crazy huh!

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/Rampandlift/flex1.jpg

Alex and I flexed her out with the new springs. All I can say is if you want something done right do it yourself..... I don't know who builds a shock that will work for it but who cares

[CurleyMan]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/Rampandlift/flex5.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/Rampandlift/flex4.jpg

[bogof]

That looks gnarly!

Did you say you were going to do an allpro style flatbed?

[Sully4x4]

I like the punisher skulls on each side...add's to it a lot =)

[Nissanclay]

Is that an ARB sticker on your roof? That is huge!

[CurleyMan]

thanks my buddy made them for me... now he needs too design a giant warn sticker for the hood ....He also did the nissan sticker on the windshield because people kept calling it a toyota....

and yes I will build an alpro style bed and exo it before moab...

[NissanNut]

thanks my buddy made them for me... now he needs too design a giant warn sticker for the hood ....He also did the nissan sticker on the windshield because people kept calling it a toyota....

and yes I will build an alpro style bed and exo it before moab...


Thats sad but funny, We went to hot springs last weekend. We had 3 pathys,1 frontier and one xterra and one jeep all lined up at the office. This old guy says to Jim (Jeep guy from gonemoab) "Those toyota guys lt you run with them?" Pretty sad how stupid some people are.

[Sully4x4]

I hate it when people think my nissan is a yota.........

[Nissanclay]

I had a guy with a very built up 4runner think mine was a yota! Freaked you when I said it was a Nissan. He couldn't believe it.

Truck looks good ben.

[theking]

I'm tryin' with the "Nissan Pathfinder" decal on my top rail. Everyone called the old Beast a Jeep. :duh: :wtf:
Now people don't know what the hell it is.

Gone 08 is gonna have some bad ass rigs!

For some reason you're tires look small now, Ben :eek:

[Alex Topousis]

For some reason you're tires look small now, Ben :eek:

Dont encourage him! you're going to hurt his feelings:bannana: Now that you said that he will have 40" tires in no time, just you watch

[theking]

You don't have 40's yet! jeezz. what's wrong with you?
:D

[cuong nguyen]

Ben, what axles are you gonna go with or are you already working on a set?

[Ryan Gee]

Gone 08 is gonna have some bad ass rigs!

Maybe I missed something.... are you gonna to be there?

[theking]

Affirmative!

[Ryan Gee]

Sweet!!

[Ditchfinder]

Like what you have done I did like the camo but huge improvment I didnt understand the extended cab when you were talking about it before I will show the guys at work. like Ryan said SWEET.

[CurleyMan]

Ben, what axles are you gonna go with or are you already working on a set?

i'm just gonna keep the dana 44's.... when i need new tires i'll start working on the new axles... For what it matters my ideal rear setup would be the isuzu corp 12 bolt or gm corp 14 bolt with an arb and 5.38's... For the front I just need a hp ford d44 and my arb and 5.38's. For a couple of reasons the 61" axle width is bothering me so i'd like the full width 65. The 5.38's would give me the power to turn 40 inch tires and still hit 80 on the highway :)...

[Sully4x4]

You're acting like this is still your DD...is it?

[Alex Topousis]

You're acting like this is still your DD...is it?

no it is not his daily driver but many of the trails require highway driving from where we live

[Sully4x4]

Oooh ok. I gotcha. I guess I am just used to seeing trailers used for such badass rigs =D. But that works :)

[csutke]

Oooh ok. I gotcha. I guess I am just used to seeing trailers used for such badass rigs =D. But that works :)

those would be called trailer beauties being pulled by street queens

[CurleyMan]

I have been having this conversation on another forum so i thought i'd document it here in case someone needs it in the future....
I purchased a nissan quest fan and the Hayden thermo controller. The issue is Haydens controller is made to control two fans and not one with dual speeds. I found a nissan Z website which gives details on how to fix this issue and not "burn up" the quest fan... I'll post pictures on here when everything is finished.
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=82807

[CurleyMan]

This is the stocker and I have removed as much as possible.. It is still way too long for the quest fan...

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/waterpump3.jpg

Here is one from a nissan 280zx 79-83. A friend recommended it because it bolts up to the 4cyl and does not have the clutch

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/waterpump4.jpg

Side by side

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/waterpump2.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/waterpump.jpg

All I need now is the pulley from a 280zx

[Giancarlo93]

Why do you want it without the clutch?
When I did the overhaul in my truck I went to buy a new one and they offer me two models, one with the clutch that cost $240 and then they offer me one without the clutch in $87, trying to be smart, I bought the one of $87 and a new clutch, not OEM, but made in Japan that cost me $20, so I though I made a good deal. I went to install it in the car and the temperature was in the middle all the time when my truck always has been in a quart.
After cleaning radiator and doing all kind of stuff I decided to buy the one that cost $240 and the problem is gone.

[CurleyMan]

You have a V-6 I have a 4 cyl the water pump for the 4cyl is totally different. The v-6 model is sold without or with the clutch the 4cyl is only sold with the clutch.... The reason why I need to loose the clutch is just a clearance issue... Not enough room once the quest fan is placed on the radiator...

[McClurgM]

Curley - He as a 4cyl....not the V6
Giancarlo - The pump with out the clutch is not sold here. If it is possible to purchase one that would solve curley's issue. The pump from a 280 appears to be identical to the 4cyl one. (plus is is cheaper for some reason) the pully should be easy to find here.....

[CurleyMan]

I had to put the water pump thing on hold because I found a more interesting and pertinent project. I ripped my motor mounts some time this year and must replace them. I could have bought used motor mounts and used the chain link to assure a long life. I opted to purchase toyota 22r bombproof aftermarket mounts... Rockstomper.com sells the beefy units for 40 each or something like that. I will have to deal with two minor problems in order to mount the mounts. The steel brace bolted to the motor needs to be drilled out as rockstomper used a thicker bolt.. One of the base holes is not in the correct spot I will either expand the rockstomper unit or weld a stud to the frame in the appropriate spot...

Nissan's motor mount crumple zone compliant for sure
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics010.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics008.jpg

Rockstompers 22R mount unpainted but only for a few days
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics009.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics007.jpg

As you can see they are not an exact match but well close enough actually not bad for something built for a toyota..
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics006.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics011.jpg

They should hold the motor in if and when I flip the truck upside down :)

[earth1]

Nice. Can't wait to see it in place. I was thinking of welding some chain to mine. My ride probably doesn't put half the strain on the mounts that yours does, so the yota mount is probably a better solution for a crawler. I have busted 2 though and want to try something.

[NissanNut]

Wow thats very close. I was gonna say that looks like my old 720 mount. 2wd/4wd had the same mount on both sides. I paid $50 for those years ago. $40 is a good deal.

[Packman5280]

i think it was nissanproject (isaac) on AC or N4W that converted some MORE bombproof mounts from a CJ to work on a 4banger nissan. was pretty slick, little work involved. I may still have the PM from him yer interested, but they wouldn't work for the V6 at all.

[bodyman909]

Yea those nissan mounts suck,it seems like the drivers side is the first to go since it gets lifted upwards by the motor's torque.

You should just make some out of leaf spring shackles like this... http://www.4x4parts.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB9&Number=537020&Searchpage=1&Main=537020&Words=+theking&topic=&Search=true#Post537020

[NissanNut]

Yea those nissan mounts suck,it seems like the drivers side is the first to go since it gets lifted upwards by the motor's torque.

You should just make some out of leaf spring shackles like this... http://www.4x4parts.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB9&Number=537020&Searchpage=1&Main=537020&Words=+theking&topic=&Search=true#Post537020

Those are very nice. I just used a piece of chain before they break.

[CurleyMan]

I should have done that sweet mounts for sure....

[theking]

;)

Hey, looks like they should round out those tabs (red circle) so the thing can pivot some; yes, no?

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/kennylauter909/motormount.jpg

[Ryan Gee]

It's a motor mount........ not a stripper.:B&B:

[Alpine Spirit]

Yeah round em down some.

Looks like that HD Toyota mount I was eyeballin.

[CurleyMan]

Yes they should and I will do it to mine for sure... The yota sits in the mount flat where the nissan makes it tilt a little so rounding out the sides is a must... I'll post pic's this weekend now that I have my camera back..

[CurleyMan]

Rockstomper used grade 5 bolts and well for a couple bucks I could put longer washer equipped grade 8's in... The other issue was he decided to use a rubber sleeve in-between the poly bushings..
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics012.jpg

I think everyone here knows metal sleeves are the norm so I found some bronze bushings at ACE and cut them to fit..
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics014.jpg

Grade 8 with bronze bushings paint and plenty of grease...
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics016.jpg

drivers side
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics015.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics017.jpg

Passenger side (yes I know I am missing a bolt I will find it soon I hope).
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics018.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics019.jpg

[Alpine Spirit]

Dude thats awesome!!!

Oh do you know your missing a bolt... :rrun:

[Bill Potter]

Looks great!

[CurleyMan]

Oh do you know your missing a bolt... :rrun:



:doublefinger:

[NissanNut]

Looks great. Did you weld the Nissan lower plate to the new hinge?

[Reserector]

I wish I had seen this about a year ago. Great solution!

[earth1]

:thumbsup:

[CurleyMan]

No I didn't Barry I may do this now that you mention it.. Well I may ask Cameron to weld them on..

[CurleyMan]

Ok SO the 280 zx water pump worked but the pulley didn't so Mat and I had to fabricate a new pulley.
The gray one is from a 280 zx and the black is from my old nissan waterpump.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics025.jpg
We had to mimic the center hole and 4 mounting holes
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics024.jpg
done
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics022.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics023.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics026.jpg
And Installed it should do the job
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics027.jpg

[CurleyMan]

I wanted to put a quest fan on the truck but I think I ame up with a better alternative..
Here is a quest and ford taurus fan side by side..
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics021.jpg
The taurus fan is a dual fan setup and I can easily fit two on the nissan radiator... The other plus is that the junk yards are overflowing with the ford cars equipped with this fan..
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics020.jpg
All I need to do now is rig the wiring harness and cut the shroud to fit...

[CurleyMan]

In the mean time PSC sent my box back to me rebuilt, ported, painted they also added some bling.... A hell of a deal for 260 bucks shipped.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics032.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics036.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics033.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics034.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics035.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics030.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics031.jpg

[csutke]

looks good, how much you pay for those fans and you get them locally?

[NissanNut]

Nice job on that pulley! Very cool. The L and Z engines series shared ALLOT of parts.

[Sully4x4]

That a good idea for the 2 fans on the radiator.

[CurleyMan]

Thanks guys

I got the fans in denver at sidewinders.. I also picked up a york air compressor, another set of fans, a pusher electric fan and the ford set.. He charged me 40 bucks. The Fort Collins yard wanted to charge me 50 for the pair so I walked away..

[Ditchfinder]

sidewinder rocks those guys are cheap to, I am running a 06' civic fan and a Mitsubishi fan, I tried running one large but the temp climbed a little towing works great now. looks geat Curley I like PSC action clean.

[Black Pathfinder]

Nice work, I wasnt aware you were building on it at this time.

[CurleyMan]

I made the fan shroud, mounted the fans and the wiring harness.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture012.jpg

The fans are controlled by a Hayden fan controller but I installed a manual switch just incase.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture016.jpg

The fans are kinda quiet so I put a red indicator light to let me know when they are running.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture017.jpg

[CurleyMan]

Here is the nissan steering box
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture001.jpg
After I moved the axle forward the tie rod was hitting my rear swinging pitman arm. The only way to rectify this was to put a forward swinging box on like the scout 2 box.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture002.jpg
As you can see the pitman arm is super long and pushes the box pretty far back on my frame. Cameron offered to cut, plate and re-weld my pitman arm. It is 11 inches stock Cameron made it 9.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture010.jpg
Hard to tell it's even been welded
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture011.jpg
With Cameron, and Mat helping me we built the steering linkage using a mack truck u-joint and yoke directly from Spicer.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture009.jpg

[CurleyMan]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture013.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture004.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture026.jpg

[CurleyMan]

So i'm almost done with the front I just need to install the hydro assist ram, front wheel spacers, 14 inch shocks, extruded metal radiator grill and metal panels on the sides. Either way here are some flexy shots...
compressed
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture019.jpg
almost fully extended
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture020.jpg
The rear springs still suck
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture024.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture023.jpg

[CurleyMan]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture021.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture018.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture015.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/Picture014.jpg

[Sully4x4]

been busy?

[CurleyMan]

Yes this crap takes forever trust me...

Ok so for some reason my parents are still buying me x-mas presents. I was a bad kid growing up and am almost 30 yrs old so I have no clue why they still do it. I ran the Hydro assist On that last carnage run and it was incredible. Needless to say I had to change a few things but it's perfectly setup now so here are some pics.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/hydroassist004.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/hydroassist003.jpg

Here is a close up from the front. It's pretty well protected behind the tie rod.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/hydroassist010.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/hydroassist009.jpg

[CurleyMan]

I really try to avoid trashing the environment with oils. The quick disconnects should make it easy to take the ram off if for some reason I need to on the trail. The only thing I need to buy now is a High pressure/volume TC pump. Thanks for welding everything on Cameron. :) It's sooo much easier to turn on and off road I highly recommend this mod.

[bodyman909]

Looks good!I luv my hydro assist.
I still need to make my resevoir bigger to hold more fluid.
Try drilling out the restrictor valve,it makes a BIG difference.

[CurleyMan]

Restrictor Valve? Help me out with this one... I have plenty of nissan steering pumps where is this valve and what do I do?

[bodyman909]

ok,i posted this awhile back.. http://www.4x4parts.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=sas&Number=538238&Searchpage=1&Main=527484&Words=bodyman909&topic=&Search=true#Post538238
I wasnt to happy with the response turning left so
since then I took it back out and enlarged the hole with a 1/8 bit.Much better response/feel.

[bodyman909]

Oh I forgot you have a 4 banger,I wonder if the pumps are the same?..

[CurleyMan]

Holy crap Thanks for the advise I just bored out that part and it's a one finger spinner now.... I'll post pics in a couple mins.

[Bill Potter]

Please do...maybe it will help me avoid the hyrdo for awhile.

Also Did it fix your slight delay?

[NissanNut]

I have an extra 94 v6 pump. Can this be modified? I think my hi steer makes it worse. The Inverted Y on the pathy is much easier to turn.

[bodyman909]

I guess nissan made 2 different pumps and the only way to tell is to take the restrictor off.If it has a seperate flow pin inside then you cant modify it.I experimented with my first pump and drilled out the seperate flow pin and made it worse,so I went to the JY and got another pump off a 88 v6 HB and it had a different restrictor with no flow pin.
I bet you even without Hydro assist,if you just drill out the restictor you'd probably get better steering power..
Adding an oil cooler should help keep the pump and steering box cool and happier too!

[theking]

This is the one you can't modify:http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/kennylauter909/MoonBuggy.jpg

[CurleyMan]

Ok so from what I could tell the hole is close to 5/64 stock.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics128.jpg

There is a hole close to 1/8 on the side so I figure going bigger then 1/8 won't help much right?
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics127.jpg

I couldn't find 1/8 drill bit the so I used a 9/64. Here is a 9/64 placed next to a 5/64 drill bit.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics123.jpg

Finished product
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics121.jpg

Forums rock thanks Bodyman I think this really improved my GPM flow. And yes Bill this totally eliminated the power delay I had.

[Bill Potter]

looks simple....I wonder what pump I have...but I've been looking for a reason to go to Sidewinders.

[bodyman909]

Awesome!you got the modifiable pump.
Yea your doin it right,9/32 should make a difference.
I run my steering fluid resevoir about half cause when its full it wants to spill out so just wrap a towel around it.A bigger resevoir would be nice.

[CurleyMan]

I tapped a restrictor from the spare pump then installed the tapped restrictor on my pump. The whole thing took 20 min tops. Yank a few pumps if you can I'm sure the later model guys will buy them. I'm interested to see How well it helps without hydro assist. Also for what it matters I have two free nissan boxes in perfect working order if anyone wants to tap them for hydro assist...

[CurleyMan]

The yota guys drilled what they call a restrictor plate out to 13/64. 13/64 is about the inside dia of the bottle neck inside the nissan restrictor valve.. It may work but I want to try this 9/64 out for a couple days before I do anything drastic..
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/2005ultimateadventure/131_0512_lift/index1.html

[CurleyMan]

I wonder if this would work for increasing pressure in our pumps.. The jeep pumps look similar. So if we could increase the pressure of the nissan pumps i'd be able to skip buying a TC pump...

http://westtexasoffroad.homestead.com/powersteering.html

[CurleyMan]

I'm goin into the pump wish me good luck!!!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=167299&page=3

[bodyman909]

They talk about adding and removing shims for more pressure on the jeep and chevy pumps in addition to drilling out the fitting for more flow.,we got the flow covered.Lemme know whatcha find out.the pirate board seems to be down...

More power to ya pumpmeister!

[CurleyMan]

Ok so if you go to [http://westtexasoffroad.homestead.com/powersteering.html the nissan pump is kinda similar. It has a piston that is suspended by a spring(2) and (3). I could not disassemble the piston trust me I tried. I tried extending the spring but it seemed to return back to stock length after being compressed. So I took a 10mm snap ring placed it on the bottom of the piston and it should mimic an extended spring.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics139.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics140.jpg
The snap ring sits in place because of a tiny lip on the piston. I did grind the ears off so that the assembly would slide back in...
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics144.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/benspics145.jpg

[CurleyMan]

I crawled up a tree in the back and the pressure still isn't as high as a it could be.. I'm gonna try to get this piston apart I think it is the key to increasing pressure.

[Allen Cox]

Do you have a disassmbly diagram for the pump? The diagram for my pump shows an air chisel (with a blunt bit) to take the shaft out. But mine is a vane style pump.

[CurleyMan]

Well this isn't the shaft!! We both have vane pumps no doubt about that. This is the pressure regulator or pressure release mechanism.. I talked with the guys at Nissan and they don't even have it in the computer. It sits directly below the valve we drilled. Either way I cannot seem to get the bugger apart. So I guess i'll just be happy with the awesome high flow i cranked out of her..
Thanks to bodyman's sweet idea... I'd really like to know what this does for the stock trucks i bet it will help!

[ChefTyler]

It'd be ideal for anyone wanting to run a hydraulic winch.

[tbecktold]

Ben did you shorten the WB any more than the 104-105ish it already was? And does it matter whether the tank is from a 2dr or 4dr Pathy?

[Ditchfinder]

Well this isn't the shaft!! We both have vane pumps no doubt about that. This is the pressure regulator or pressure release mechanism.. I talked with the guys at Nissan and they don't even have it in the computer. It sits directly below the valve we drilled. Either way I cannot seem to get the bugger apart. So I guess i'll just be happy with the awesome high flow i cranked out of her..
Thanks to bodyman's sweet idea... I'd really like to know what this does for the stock trucks i bet it will help!

Ben that is the relief valve in the pic the honda pumps are the same thanks for the write up and the gearbox now I just need time to install it.:wave:

[CurleyMan]

Ben did you shorten the WB any more than the 104-105ish it already was? And does it matter whether the tank is from a 2dr or 4dr Pathy?

I actually extended it to 106.5 or 107. Not sure exactly Steph's 4 yr old son only holds the tape measure for a couple seconds. As far as I know the fuel tanks are exactly the same on 4 door and 2 door pathy's.

[NissanNut]

Ben did you shorten the WB any more than the 104-105ish it already was? And does it matter whether the tank is from a 2dr or 4dr Pathy?

Just for curiousity I looked up the wd21 part number in FAST. There is 6 or 8 different part numbers!!:confused: They all look the same to me.

[tbecktold]

Another question...which Calmini crossmembers did you use? I assume the transmission one, and doubt you used all of them, but was wondering. Thanks

[CurleyMan]

I used all three of them and recently cut the first one off. The new springs alcan made for me allowed more up travel and my yoke was going to hit. However without the first crossmember i have a little too much flex in the frame. I would recommend using it because an exo cage is the only other way I can stiffen up my frame at this point.

[tbecktold]

What'd you do to make them fit your 4banger truck, just drill some new holes etc? I was thinking about just ordering the tranny one for now, assuming it'll give me enough driveshaft clearance. Thanks for answering all my questions man!

[CurleyMan]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/Rampandlift/2003_0101nissan0006.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/Rampandlift/2003_0101nissan0003.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/Rampandlift/2003_0101nissan0002.jpg

Allphase did the work so i don't really know! I think it bolted right up

[Alex Topousis]

wow looks clean, you ever wheel that thing or is it a mall crawler?:crazy:

[CurleyMan]

LOL hey now those are pic's from right after allphase finished with it. I still hadn't finished braking the gears in so it was still a virgin 4x4...

[CurleyMan]

So I have been chasing this Idea for a long time now... I really wanted to put hood louvers in my quarter panel. Of coarse I haven't even had a quarter panel for some time mostly because it took me forever to find a place with a luever press. AIM community college had the machine and was willing to let me use it (no-charge) for this project.. So I set off with a 1/16th section of sheet metal and in 45 min stamped 44 louvers (22 on each side)..

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/tiresandluevers016.jpg

[CurleyMan]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/tiresandluevers010.jpg
Here is the pass side cut to size..
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/tiresandluevers014.jpg

[csutke]

lookin good.

[CurleyMan]

Painted and bolted to the tube. I know it would look better if it where welded but i think being able to unbolt the quarter panel is more important. I'm going to add one more tab and bolt to the top center so it looks a little more balanced!
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/tiresandluevers011.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/tiresandluevers009.jpg

[ChefTyler]

Looks badass.

[itsme1738]

very nice :grind:

[itsme1738]

where did u get your front shock hoops from?:confused:

[Alex Topousis]

where did u get your front shock hoops from?:confused:

Allphase bent the tubing for them

[CurleyMan]

Hmm well it's been awhile since I've posted anything... The Arb compressor pretty much died after 3 years of trouble free use. I replaced it with a Viair compressor and located a 2.5 gallon tank on my frame rail.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/viair.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/tank.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/curleyben/rebuild/tank2.jpg