Custom SAS

[Boondox]

I thought this would be the best place to ask questions about the SAS project.
Here is the current project pic's.
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/15322022315.jpg

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[South Side Ninja]

:wave: :wave: :wave:

[Boondox]

Sorry i'm not on MXO more. :(
I don't get out much to wheel, that will
change soon SS ninja. My GF is switching
jobs so she will have weekends off.
I couldn't go wheeling before due to her
getting mad if i went wheeling without her.

[ChefTyler]

Lookin' good so far :D

[Allen Cox]

Well, you're right! This is the place for the SAS crowd to hang. ;)

[NissanNut]

Looks good. Coils or coilovers?

[ChefTyler]

Coils I believe :D

[Alpine Spirit]

Nice!!!!

[Ryan Gee]

Looks awesome!!!

[Nissanclay]

I don't know if you are aware of this but did you know your tuck is missing a front axle? :)

Looking good. I think the second gens look sweet SAS'd.

[Boondox]

Got some more parts today.
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/15720445130.jpg

[Allen Cox]

Are those degreed? I think for stock, they're like 2° clams, but I know for the lifted ones, they're 4°. Just curious.

[Boondox]

For 4+ lift, they are 7 degree. The kit came with all the bushings for the radius arm, c, and trac bar.

[Allen Cox]

Nice! That will get all the caster you need, no problem then.

[Boondox]

Some more work done today. Click on photo fro high res.
I had my GF help to keep her busy.
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/15923151384.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5642893)
Old 05 axle
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/15923151462.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5642894)
Axle removed pic
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/15923151486.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5642896)
Axle almost together
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/15923151476.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5642897)
Pics of the Hovercraft X
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/15923151493.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5642899)
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/15923151416.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5642898):bannana:

[South Side Ninja]

this pic is awesome.

http://img2.putfile.com/main/6/15923151493.jpg

[Allen Cox]

Are those the new BFG Stealth Terrains? Those things are sweet! Theft proof too.

[Boondox]

LMAO!! Yes they are the stealth design, i'm going to
get a refund do to you seeing them!
Here is the rear set up of the X

Right now i have the AAL, going spring over, and adding
5in blocks till i get new leaf packs! Their is a shop where
i am from that makes custom packs. Oh ya a 3in BL on top of
that. I looking at 1.5+4+5+3= 13.5 of lift over stock!!!!
This may change due to the front set up. Changed coils
for 9in lift bronco coils.

[Boondox]

Here is the X is sitting right now.
Need to cut off more cross members and coil buckets.
Grinder caught on fire due to over heating... it was a cheap one.
Wish i had a plasma or torch handy but i have to use my Sawzall.

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16719313970.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5713702)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/1671931409.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5713705)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16719314081.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5713706)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16719355487.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5713783)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16719313981.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5713704)

MY girl
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16719355422.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5713782)

[Boondox]

Need some help. Will the bronco spring fit this coil bucket
or is just jeep coils, http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/Adjustable-coil-buckets_p_32-1183.html .

[NissanNut]

Yes. I have bronco coils and those buckets. Well there really just flat stock.

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/links/coil_springs_mocked.jpg

[Boondox]

No issue with the steering link being to close to the bucket..?
Going to pick a pair next week and shock towers.:bannana:

[NissanNut]

Perfect fit.

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/coil_buckets/coil_bucket_clearance_driver.jpg

[Boondox]

Need help with a answer, should i go coil over
before i go to far on this setup now i'm using?
It will take me a month longer to finish due to cost.
I'm thinking of the AllPro SAS tacoma kit. Price dropped
down. Since the its a kit and looks like it can work
with our setup. Possible halfass SAS kit for the X.

http://www.allprooffroad.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=80

http://www.allprooffroad.com/images/stories/Taco%20Supreme%20049_sm.jpg
Use the suspension links, towers and so on...
*Chime in if you guys have issue with this.*

[tmorgan4]

I was eying that All Pro kit a little while ago. Seems like a pretty good deal and you could use the majority of the parts. If for some reason the links interfered with other parts I'm sure you could return the kit.

I found a guy selling Sway-a-way coilovers for CHEAP compared to what I'd been seeing elsewhere. 2.0x14" coilovers with reservoir for $250 each.

Could also look at FOA shocks. New company with super cheap prices but they seem to be quality parts.

[NissanNut]

I love that kit. That was my deciding factor on building a 3 link. I thought you were doing ford radius arms though. I would go coils for now. My coils were $120 a pair. Never going to beat that price with coilovers. I used adjustable buckets instead of adjustable coilovers.

[Boondox]

I get a week to 2 weeks in between work time on the X.
So all i do i sit at the comp or just think about how to
improve on what i am doing to it.

[Ryan Gee]

I think your front axle is from a 78-79 bronco... the short side axle tube is for the most part all cast. If you get a housing from an early 70's ford truck, they do not have that outer cast section on both sides. The axle tube size goes down to 2.75 from 3 inches, but you would not be welding to case steel.

This is from the early 70's ford trucks... 2.75 and thick!

http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/22129/2002681657859964918_rs.jpg

[Boondox]

Tires and wheels: $250, wheels will be on the tires and mounted next week.

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/19520371923.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5999150)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/19520372051.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5999151)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/19520372048.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5999152)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/19520372029.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5999153)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/19520372074.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5999154)

[zonianbrat]

That is going to be sick lookin. nice work so far.

[zonianbrat]

ONe day when I have lots of $$ I know what forum I will be asking advice from when I try to SAS an R50.

[Alpine Spirit]

Looking good. How is the steering coming along?

[Boondox]

Steering is mounted where it needs to be.
I do need to get 2 plates for the extra support
for the frame. I cut a body mount off thinking i needed
when i had uses of a torch. I'm thinking i didn't need to do it
But if the steering binds wheni test the flex i can always move
it forward a few inches.
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/19717344425.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6022132)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/19717344410.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6022133)

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http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/19717395726.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6022247)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/19717395767.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6022250)

[theking]

That's interesting how the frame doesn't curve down in the front like the WD21's. Keeps the steering box nice and high. You runnin' a 9" for the rear?

[Boondox]

yep and dana 44 hp in the front

[theking]

Looks insane with those meats! You gonna run high steer on the pass knuckle? I might retrofit mine. I don't know if it'll make a difference but the stock inverted T setup inherently has play in it, and it gets worse with more angle in the drag link. Aside from unbalanced boggers, i think it's causing some of my death wobble.

[Allen Cox]

Ouch, death wobble sucks!

We induce as much caster in the axles as possible to get rid of the death wobble. Dodges are so terrible about the DW.

[theking]

I think it's more imbalance than anything, on the fact that one of my front wheels is over 40+ oz off balance.lol Drives smooth though between 35 and 65.

[Allen Cox]

40oz?! And to think I bitch about a slight vibration at 70mph!

Bent rim?

[theking]

The tire guy said big Swampers are just hard to balance sometimes. But they just look so good :o And now i want some 39.5's!!!

[Boondox]

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/21000051961.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6140763)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/21000051911.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6140764)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/21000051947.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6140766)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/21000051963.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6140765)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/21000051918.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6140767)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/21000052074.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6140771)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/21000052230.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6140779)
:bannana:

[Giancarlo93]

Looking good!
That Xterra is huge!

[cameron_garrison]

man dont sneeze when your looking at it might tip it over

[Boondox]

Parts pics for the new (used) F-250 dana 44

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28200552352.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6834271)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28200552383.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6834272)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28200552371.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6834273)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28200552399.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6834274)

[zonianbrat]

Guess you wont be parking in the garage anymore huh......

[hr220a]

wow, your truck looks awesome. I'm putting 37s on my 00 xterra when I sas it in a couple of weeks and I thought mine would be big! I like it...

[theking]

Looks like 3 link junk. What's that big piece that looks like a seafood fork?

[itsme1738]

be nice

[theking]

I am nice.lol :crazy:

Got it. You gonna be the first to adapt that Tacoma kit? That's gonna be sweet!

[CurleyMan]

sweet truck bro glad to see another nissan sas'd

[Boondox]

The seafood fork is working perfect on the X.
Got mostly tacked on today. Click on the pic, if u want full size image.

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28619434520.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6867183)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28619434660.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6867184)

Notched the frame for the steering arm, it is boxed back up now.
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28619434722.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6867190)

Who needs a radiator?
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28619434740.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6867191)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28619434760.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6867192)

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[Sully4x4]

Looks like it's coming along nicely, let us know how it rides.

[Boondox]

:bannana:
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/11/30818221793.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7024513)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/11/30818221899.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7024514)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/11/30818221820.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7024515)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/11/30818221852.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7024516)
The jack start to get unstable, need a forklift to test the suspension.

[tmorgan4]

Nice! :bannana:

[theking]

That thing is HUGE!!! Very Nice! Looks like it's almost ready to be released into the wild!!! :thumbsup: Lookin forward to seein some trail shots.

[NissanNut]

That thing is HUGE!!! Very Nice! Looks like it's almost ready to be released into the wild!!! :thumbsup: Lookin forward to seein some trail shots.

Ditto!

Good job on getting that 3 link kit to work.

[ChefTyler]

Nicely done :D

[Boondox]

The turning radius could be better, could be of the huge tires.
I could take the body lift off and go with 35's or 36's or just buy new
wheels. What do u guys think?

[bogof]

It really depends on if you like the tire size, but for me I would go for new rims.
You already put this much work into it why downgrade tires now?

[Sully4x4]

I didn't even look at the size. But compared to you guys by the tires and the truck hauling it...that thing is a friggin monster. Nice work!

[theking]

Turn? You can just run over everything! I'm sellin my 37" Boggers and rims. lol

[tmorgan4]

What's limiting your turning? The tires hitting the body?

[Boondox]

No they are hitting the lower links... :(

[CurleyMan]

don't go with smaller tires just build a wider axle or if need be use wheel spacers.... good looking truck :)

[tmorgan4]

You're using radius arms up front, aren't you? That's one reallly nice feature built into the Cage arms I just sold. They've got a bend in them right where the tires would hit to give you a little more room to turn the wheels.

[CurleyMan]

yea good idea that would be alot easier.... having new arms made would be alot cheaper

[Boondox]

I was using a d44 out of a 78 bronco but switched to the f250
axle for a custom 3 link.I'm using a axle out of a 78 3/4 ton f250.
I can pick up some freebie spacers for the 5 lug setup. Yes i did
switch the 8 lug front D44 to a 5lug to match the back.:D

Illinois has laws for tires sticking out to far on vehicles.
No fender flares out yet.

[Boondox]

Ok its finished, took 8 months :eek:
Here is pic's of all 4 corners
http://img2.putfile.com/main/1/1316161534.jpg

http://img2.putfile.com/main/1/1316161558.jpg

http://img2.putfile.com/main/1/1316161575.jpg

http://img2.putfile.com/main/1/1316161596.jpg

[itsme1738]

nice!!!!!!

[Giancarlo93]

Looking nice but where are the 39's swampers?

[bluex]

looking good!!!

[theking]

So, no rubbing issues wit the new meats?

Lookin good. btw

[Boondox]

No more rubbing issues, got a set of 2 1/2 wheel spacers for free.
The worst part was figuring out the hydraulic line fittings needed.
I got a few lights on in the dash & needs alignment.

[Alpine Spirit]

Did you figure a speedometer besides a GPS?

Looks great!!

[Boondox]

GPS still, what i've heard is that u have to tie into the abs line.
It sounded expensive that why ponyboy or 8th man have not done it either.
I'm still at 31,000 miles and aways will.
Unless something like this can run in the Atlas tcase
http://www.jeep-wiki.com/wiki/Changing_Your_Speedo_Gear

[Allen Cox]

Find the rear nose cone with the sensor wheel for the 9", and then get the Dakota Digital -->here!<-- (http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=126/category_id=287/home_id=59/mode=prod/prd126.htm) and hook up both rear sensor lines (for the ABS on your Xterra) and then the speedo and odo (cruise control, volume sensitive stereo, etc.) will work correctly. The computer only needs to see the rear sensors inputing to make it all work.

And that all will work off any 1 sensor, like the nose cone sensor available for the Ford 9". I know Ryan Gee knows who makes that nose cone. He's sent me the link before. I have to dig it up. It's doable on a Saturday afternoon.

[theking]

Could we get some pics of the underside?: maybe of the upper link mounts, driveshaft clearance, tracebar clearance, ect. How's the rig working out, by the way.

[Boondox]

It took 9 months to build and 2 hours to break.
I need to get it fixed, just don't have the $$$
I'll post pics once its done right this time. It was a learnig lesson.

[yozsi]

you gonna ever post anything on midwestern4x4? lol.

[tmorgan4]

What broke?

[theking]

OK, i looked through your pix. I'm guessing the upper link bumped and started a bend. Or, was the tube just not beefy enough? Are you going to run a taller upper link bracket on the driver side? I'm asking cause we might have a 05 X to SAS. :rainfro:

http://img2.putfile.com/main/2/4721484344.jpg

[Boondox]

I got the parts in to upgrade the X's links.The tubing is 2.0 od / 1.5 id.. The insert are 16tpi and bolt size. Also got radius ar brackets and rear shock tabs.

http://img2.putfile.com/main/6/16820002851.jpg

http://img2.putfile.com/main/6/16819494147.jpg

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